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Interbeing: Buddhist Insight IntoInterconnection and Healing

Thich Nhat Hanh
Thich Nhat Hanh
Sep 29, 2015
9 min de lectura

Thich Nhat Hanh presents interbeing as the central Buddhist insight: nothing exists in isolation, and all phenomena contain all other phenomena. This vision is not metaphysical speculation but a living understanding reached through mindfulness practice—the core of why Buddhism is practical, healing-oriented work rather than philosophy. Interbeing dissolves the illusion of a separate self and reveals how joy, suffering, and transformation are deeply interconnected, enabling practitioners to work skillfully with pain and generate genuine happiness.

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Why Buddhism Rejects Philosophy but Not Insight

Thich Nhat Hanh opens with the Buddha's core teaching: Buddhism is about suffering and its transformation. The Buddha repeatedly discouraged metaphysical questions—Is the world finite? Does the soul survive death?—not because he couldn't answer them, but because intellectual speculation wastes time that should be spent healing. This distinction is crucial. Many Western scholars studied Buddhism purely through language and intellect, comparing Buddhist ideas to Western thought, yet never practiced mindfulness, walked meditatively, or took the Five Precepts. Without practice, they misunderstood Buddhism entirely.

The Buddha illustrated this through the parable of the Simsapa Leaf. After a walking meditation, he held a handful of leaves and asked his monks: "Are these more numerous than all the leaves in the forest?" They replied yes, obviously. The Buddha said, "I know many things, but I teach only what is essential for your transformation and healing." Philosophy that doesn't serve liberation wastes the limited time of a human life.

When the monk Malunkyaputta demanded answers about metaphysical questions before continuing practice, the Buddha responded with the parable of the Poisoned Arrow. A man is shot with a poison arrow. The doctor wants to extract it immediately, but the man refuses treatment until learning who shot him, his caste, his intentions. "If he waits for these answers, he will die," the Buddha said. Malunkyaputta's questions are like that—urgent suffering cannot wait for abstract answers. Real practitioners must learn to handle painful feelings and strong emotions before debating cosmology.

Yet Thich Nhat Hanh clarifies: "It's not true that in Buddhism there is no philosophy." Rather, Buddhist philosophy is not speculation but insight—a direct, lived understanding that emerges through mindfulness, concentration, and observation. This insight has transformative power. Right View is the wisdom that arises from practice, expressed not as theory but as a way of seeing that heals.

What Is Interbeing?

Interbeing is the central Buddhist insight Thich Nhat Hanh teaches. It means that nothing can exist in isolation; everything co-arises with everything else. The monk illustrates this with a sheet of paper. A sheet of paper appears to exist independently, but looking deeply, you see a tree in it—without trees, there is no paper. You see a forest, the logger, the rain that grew the forest, the sunshine, the mill worker. Remove any of these elements and the paper cannot exist. "The paper cannot be by itself alone," Thich Nhat Hanh says. "It has to interbe with the tree, with the sunshine, with the cloud, with the rain, and so on."

The word "to be" in everyday language is misleading. When you say "I am," you imagine yourself as separate and complete. But you cannot be there without parents, ancestors, food, air, water, and the whole cosmos. A more accurate statement is "We are there." You are not a separate "me" but a "we"—you carry all beings and all the Earth within you. Thich Nhat Hanh teaches: "You carry Mother Earth; you carry the sunshine; you carry the rain, everything."

Interbeing is sometimes called "non-self" or "emptiness" in Buddhist terminology, but Thich Nhat Hanh prefers interbeing as the clearest translation for modern listeners. Non-self can sound nihilistic; emptiness can seem abstract. But interbeing conveys the positive truth: you are not empty of meaning—you are full of connection to all that is. Your existence is woven into the whole cosmos.

Interbeing Applied to Suffering and Happiness

If nothing exists in isolation, then suffering and happiness are not isolated states either. They interbe. Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that suffering and happiness have "a deep connection with each other." This is not romantic pessimism—it is insight that transforms how you relate to pain.

Many people try to remove only suffering while retaining happiness: "I only want to retain happiness." But suffering and happiness are two sides of the same reality, like two sides of a sheet of paper. "You cannot take the left out of the right," Thich Nhat Hanh says. "If you try to reject suffering, you are also rejecting happiness." The attempt to split them creates more suffering because it denies reality itself.

Instead, practitioners learn to embrace suffering with compassion. When depression or despair arrives, the practice is not denial but loving attention. Thich Nhat Hanh teaches: "Hello there, my despair. I know you are there." This is the opposite of rejecting emotion. The Buddha recommends: "Go back and listen to it, and look into it to understand the roots, of our suffering." When you look deeply into suffering—without dramatizing or pushing it away—you discover its causes. Desire, craving, and misunderstanding create suffering. Once you see the roots, suffering begins to diminish.

Suffering as Your Baby

A striking teaching: "Your suffering is your baby." Not in the sense of indulgence but of care. If you have a baby, you don't ignore it or reject it. You hold it, listen to it, feed it. Thich Nhat Hanh uses this metaphor to dissolve the common adversarial relationship with pain. Many practitioners fight suffering, which intensifies it. Instead, treat it as something that has arisen within you that deserves recognition and understanding. When you wash dishes mindfully, when you breathe mindfully while hurting, you are nourishing yourself. You are taking care of your suffering with the same tenderness you would offer a child.

This practice is not resignation. Once you truly understand suffering—its roots in craving, habit, and illusion—you naturally suffer less. The insight itself is liberating. Thich Nhat Hanh says: "If you get an insight, we have transformation. And when you have transformation, you suffer less."

The Practice of Mindfulness as Direct Seeing

Insight doesn't come from thinking. It comes from observing reality directly through mindfulness. When you practice mindful breathing, mindful walking, or mindful eating, you are not gathering information—you are learning to see what is already here. Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that "mindful breathing is to... brings the happiness, of being alive." When mind and body are together in the present moment, you naturally generate joy. Not a contrived happiness, but the simple peace of being fully present.

This is why practicing with a Sangha—a community of practitioners—matters. The Buddha's teachings were meant for communal practice. When you sit with others, when you look at a brother or sister in practice, "the Buddha is there also." You are not practicing alone. The insight of interbeing is lived when you are aware that you are sitting with ancestors, with beings you love, with all humanity. Your practice nourishes them even as it nourishes you.

Transforming the Seeds Within

Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that within each consciousness are many seeds—seeds of mindfulness, joy, compassion, but also seeds of anger, craving, and delusion. When you practice mindfulness, you water the seeds of mindfulness and compassion in yourself and in others. A teacher radiates a peaceful presence; a student receives it. "In the other person, there's a seed of mindfulness; there's a seed of awareness; and in the other person." Through this subtle transmission, you help others without forcing or proselytizing. You simply embody the practice.

This is the teaching of the lotus and the mud. "Of the mud, you can grow beautiful lotus flowers." Suffering is the mud; the practice is what transforms it into beauty. The Kingdom of God—or the realm of peace that all spiritual traditions point toward—"is a place where people who have suffered deeply are living there also." Those who have looked deeply into their own pain have the wisdom to live with grace and help others.

Mind and Body as Interbeing

The teaching of interbeing extends to the body-mind relationship. In the West, there is often a split: mind is thought of as separate from body. But Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that "when mind and body are together, you generate a feeling of joy." They interbe. When you breathe mindfully while walking, when you eat with full presence, when you work with your hands while your mind is there—this unity is healing. It is not a spiritual bypassing of the body but an integration.

Practical benefits follow: "you can sleep better," you suffer less from physical pain when your mind is not at war with your body, you can taste your food and digest better, you feel more alive. These are not mystical claims but results of ending the false separation between mind and body. Interbeing is not a nice metaphor—it is observable in your own experience.

Where to Go From Here

Thich Nhat Hanh's teaching on interbeing is an invitation to shift from intellectual understanding to lived practice. Begin with mindful breathing. Notice how with each breath, you are not separate from air, from trees, from the sun. Observe how your emotions interbe with your body—how sadness lives in your chest, how joy in your whole being. When suffering arises, instead of rejecting it, greet it with the tenderness you would offer a child. Look into it deeply with curiosity and compassion. Join a Sangha or practice community if possible, because your practice is never isolated—it is always in interbeing with others. Finally, notice how joy and sorrow are not enemies but partners in a deeper wholeness. As you water the seeds of mindfulness through practice, you will discover that transformation is not a distant goal but what happens when you truly see how everything is connected.

Transcript

[0:08] [The bell sounds.]

[0:15] [The bell sounds.]

[0:22] [The bell sounds.]

[1:02] Good morning, dear Sangha.

[1:05] Today is Thursday, the 11th of October,

[1:11] in the year 2012, and we are in the

[1:14] Assembly of Stars Meditation Hall,

[1:17] Lower Hamlet, Plum Village.

[1:20] This is our Autumn Retreat.

[1:29] The Buddha reminded his disciples

[1:36] that his teaching is about suffering

[1:40] and the transformation of suffering.

[1:46] And he repeated that several times,

[1:50] because many students tend to ask him

[1:54] philosophical questions, like

[2:00] "Is the world finite or infinite?"

[2:09] And he said that

[2:11] all this philosophical speculation will

[2:22] take all our time

[2:26] and we won't have time left in order to

[2:29] practice transformation and healing.

[2:32] So, he encouraged his disciples not to

[2:35] engage in philosophical speculations.

[2:41] There were many questions

[2:43] that he refused to answer.

[2:46] It's not because he did not know how

[2:48] to answer, but he did not want to

[2:51] encourage his disciples in that direction.

[3:00] Many European scholars in the field

[3:05] of Indianism have studied Buddhism

[3:08] in the last 100 years.

[3:14] And many of them are, were

[3:21] very well versed in Sanskrit, Pali,

[3:26] Tibetan, Chinese, and so on.

[3:34] But most of them misunderstood the Buddha,

[3:39] because they had that intention to find out

[3:44] what is the philosophy,

[3:48] the ideas of the Buddha, in order for

[3:53] them to compare with the thinking,

[3:56] the philosophical thought of the West.

[4:02] They used their intellect only

[4:04] to study Buddhism.

[4:10] They never tried the practice.

[4:24] And although they know that the Buddha

[4:27] discouraged metaphysical speculation,

[4:33] but they didn't follow that advice.

[4:38] They didn't try mindful breathing,

[4:41] mindful walking, practice of mindfulness,

[4:45] practising the five precepts, ten precepts.

[4:51] They didn't do these things.

[4:55] And if they do not do these things,

[4:58] how could they understand Buddhism?

[5:01] Because Buddhism is practical.

[5:05] It's not theory.

[5:15] In Kosambi, one day the Buddha came back

[5:22] from a walking meditation, and he held in

[5:29] his hands a handful of simsapa leaves

[5:35] he picked up from the forest.

[5:37] He showed it to his monks, and he said,

[5:39] "Dear Friends,

[5:41] do you see these simsapa leaves?"

[5:45] "Yes, we do, Teacher."

[5:47] "Do you think that the leaves

[5:49] I have in my hand

[5:57] are more numerous than the

[6:01] leaves of simsapa in the forest?"

[6:08] The monks said that "Dear Teacher,

[6:10] well, you only have a handful of them.

[6:12] In the forest, there are

[6:14] tons and tons of leaves."

[6:18] The Buddha said, "This is true.

[6:21] I know many things,

[6:22] but I only teach you a few things,

[6:26] because these few things are very crucial

[6:29] for your transformation and healing."

[6:37] That is the story of the Simsapa Leaf.

[6:45] There was a time when a disciple of his,

[6:51] whose name is Malunkyaputta,

[6:56] came and asked him philosophical questions.

[7:00] Teacher, you should tell me whether

[7:03] the world is finite or infinite,

[7:07] who has created this world,

[7:09] and if the world is going to

[7:12] be destroyed or not.

[7:16] Is the soul the same thing as the body?

[7:19] Or the body is something different

[7:22] and the soul something different?

[7:25] When a person dies, does he continue

[7:28] or does he not continue?

[7:31] And things like that.

[7:38] Teacher, if you don't answer these questions,

[7:41] I'm not satisfied.

[7:42] I will have to leave the Order,

[7:45] because I am curious about these things.

[7:48] I want to find out.

[7:51] Philosophically minded people.

[7:57] The Buddha has told him,

[8:00] Malunkyaputta, when you first came here,

[8:04] and practised as an aspirant for monk,

[8:09] did I promise you that if you become a monk,

[8:12] I will teach you these kind of things?

[8:18] No, Teacher, you did not promise.

[8:23] That's right. I don't promise anyone

[8:29] to teach them philosophy and solve

[8:32] these metaphysical enigmas.

[8:36] Because what I want is to offer you

[8:41] concrete methods and teachings that

[8:43] help you transform suffering and heal.

[8:57] Suppose someone is hit by an arrow.

[9:03] With poisons.

[9:09] And the doctor came and said,

[9:11] "Let me pull out that arrow,

[9:16] and try to get the blood in that space

[9:21] out, as quickly as possible."

[9:25] And the wounded person said,

[9:27] No, no. Don't do that. You should tell

[9:29] me first, who has shot the arrow?

[9:35] What is his name?

[9:37] To what caste does he belong?

[9:41] Why did he hit me like that?

[9:44] What intention did he have?

[9:49] Malunkyaputta, if he waits until

[9:53] these questions are solved, he will die.

[9:57] He will have died already.

[10:01] So, your questions are like that.

[10:04] They are not important.

[10:06] If you spend your time trying to answer

[10:08] these questions, you will die before

[10:10] you can transform and heal.

[10:13] That is why.

[10:15] Listen to my teaching,

[10:18] and put it into practise right away,

[10:21] in order to heal and to transform.

[10:24] That is the story of Malunkyaputta.

[10:34] And many scholars,

[10:37] many monks of other schools,

[10:41] come to the Buddha and ask these questions

[10:45] also, and he always remained silent.

[10:51] Because he did not encourage people to

[10:54] indulge themselves in this kind of

[10:57] metaphysical speculation.

[11:13] We come to the Buddha because we have

[11:18] ill-being in ourselves, ill-being.

[11:22] We don't feel well in our body;

[11:25] we don't feel well in our heart.

[11:27] We suffer.

[11:30] And we want to know how to transform

[11:34] the suffering in us

[11:36] and to heal the suffering in us.

[11:40] And that is exactly what the Buddha

[11:42] wants to do -- helping people to practise

[11:49] in order to heal and to transform.

[11:57] That is why a real, a true, disciple

[12:01] of the Buddha should know

[12:06] how to handle a painful feeling,

[12:12] how to handle a strong emotion.

[12:19] They should learn that, first!

[12:24] The question whether the world is

[12:28] finite or infinite is not so important.

[12:36] The real practionner has to know how to

[12:41] generate a feeling of joy, of peace,

[12:45] of happiness, for her nourishment and healing.

[12:57] And the time is for that,

[13:02] not to discuss about metaphysical problems.

[13:08] So somehow, we can say that Buddhism is

[13:10] hostile to philosophy.

[13:14] But that does not mean that

[13:16] in Buddhism there is no philosophy.

[13:19] It is very deep.

[13:23] Because when you practise mindfulness,

[13:29] concentration, insight, you have a very

[13:32] deep view of the world.

[13:36] And you may express your view

[13:41] of the world. It's very deep.

[13:47] But not in terms of speculation.

[13:50] That is only an expression

[13:53] called right view, right view. Insight.

[13:59] That insight can help with

[14:03] transformation and healing.

[14:06] So, it's not true that in Buddhism

[14:08] there is no philosophy.

[14:11] But that is a philosophy that is a kind

[14:14] of insight, that has the power to help

[14:21] with healing and transformation,

[14:25] and not for speculation.

[14:34] One of the insights that belongs to that

[14:44] category is that suffering and happiness,

[14:53] they have a deep connection

[14:56] with each other.

[15:02] That is a deep vision, the right view.

[15:09] The insight that we need in order to

[15:13] be able truly to practise

[15:23] transformation and healing.

[15:27] And that insight is called "interbeing".

[15:35] Sometimes it's called "non-self"

[15:39] or "emptiness".

[15:44] But "interbeing" may be the easiest way

[15:48] to understand that kind of insight.

[15:51] Interbeing means

[15:54] you cannot be by yourself alone.

[15:58] You have to co-be,

[16:03] interbe,

[16:05] with everything else.

[16:08] It's like this sheet of paper.

[16:18] This sheet of paper cannot be

[16:19] by herself alone.

[16:24] When you look into it,

[16:25] you see elements that are not paper.

[16:33] And without these elements,

[16:35] a sheet of paper cannot be there.

[16:37] Like a tree.

[16:41] Looking at the sheet of paper,

[16:43] you don't see a tree.

[16:45] But there is a tree inside.

[16:47] Without a tree, you cannot make paper paste.

[16:56] You see the paper mill.

[17:00] You see the forest.

[17:02] You see the rain that

[17:04] allows the trees to grow.

[17:07] You see the sunshine,

[17:09] that helps the trees to grow.

[17:11] You see the logger.

[17:13] You see everything in the sheet of paper

[17:17] So this paper,

[17:19] without these non-paper elements,

[17:21] can never be there.

[17:25] So, the paper cannot be by itself alone.

[17:30] It has to interbe with the tree,

[17:33] with the sunshine, with the cloud,

[17:34] with the rain, and so on.

[17:36] That's called interbeing.

[17:44] So, the word "to be" that we use

[17:47] in everyday, can be very misleading.

[17:54] When we say "I am there",

[18:01] you think that you are there,

[18:05] but you cannot be there without us,

[18:10] without the trees, without the air,

[18:13] without the sunshine.

[18:18] It's better to say "we are there",

[18:21] because you carry all of us inside of you.

[18:24] You carry Mother Earth;

[18:26] you carry the sunshine;

[18:28] you carry the rain, everything.

[18:30] So this is not a me, this is a we.

[18:33] We are there.

[18:38] We interare.

[18:41] If we remove the element of parents,

[18:44] ancestors, food, education, air, water,

[18:50] there is no us left.

[18:54] So we means the whole cosmos.

[19:01] And suppose you look at the sheet of paper,

[19:06] you turn it over and you see that

[19:10] it has two sides, the left and the right.

[19:21] The recto and the verso.

[19:27] And think about the being of the left side.

[19:35] The left side cannot be by itself alone.

[19:41] Without the right side.

[19:48] The left cannot be by itself alone.

[19:50] The left has to interbe at the same time

[19:53] with the right.

[19:56] You cannot take the left out of the right.

[20:00] I cannot ask you to come and bring

[20:02] the left to Paris.

[20:05] And I cannot ask her to come and

[20:08] bring the right to Rome.

[20:15] Because they interare;

[20:18] the left and the right,

[20:21] they cannot be by themselves.

[20:25] So "the left is", that's not correct.

[20:29] The left cannot be by itself.

[20:31] The left must interbe with the right.

[20:35] Wherever the left is, the right is also.

[20:42] So if politically, you are on the left,

[20:48] don't wish for the right to disappear,

[20:51] because if the right disappears,

[20:52] the left disappears at the same time.

[20:55] That is the teaching of interbeing.

[20:58] That is a kind of philosophy.

[21:03] But not for the sake of speculation,

[21:06] this is a seeing by deep observation,

[21:10] by meditation.

[21:14] And in this case,

[21:15] we know that suffering and happiness,

[21:19] they are the same.

[21:21] One cannot be without the other.

[21:28] So if you have a wish that you

[21:32] only want to retain happiness.

[21:37] You don't want any suffering.

[21:40] That is not possible.

[21:47] And our idea of paradise,

[21:51] our idea of the Kingdom of God,

[21:54] is very naive.

[21:56] We think, over there, up there,

[22:01] there is no suffering,

[22:02] there is only happiness.

[22:05] It's like, well, there is a sheet of paper

[22:07] that has only the right side;

[22:11] there is no left side. It's not possible.

[22:16] It is with suffering,

[22:20] the element of suffering,

[22:21] that we can make happiness.

[22:24] It is like the mud and the lotus,

[22:30] and if you have insight,

[22:33] and then looking into the lotus flower,

[22:34] you see the mud inside.

[22:37] Like when you look at the sheet of paper,

[22:39] you see the tree inside.

[22:42] The tree is not apparent, but it is there.

[22:46] If you remove the tree from the paper,

[22:49] the paper will collapse.

[22:54] That's interbeing.

[22:56] That's philosophy also, but practical,

[23:00] very deep, very useful.

[23:07] So it's not true to say that there is

[23:09] no philosophy in Buddhism.

[23:11] Philosophy in Buddhism,

[23:13] that is the insight, the deep vision

[23:16] that you get with meditation.

[23:20] And that is called "Prajna".

[23:24] Prajna is insight that you obtain from the

[23:29] practice of mindfulness and concentration.

[23:33] Mindfulness, concentration bring insight.

[23:37] And insight has the power to liberate you

[23:39] from ignorance.

[23:43] When you say, "In Paradise,

[23:48] in the Kingdom of God,

[23:49] there is no suffering",

[23:51] that is ignorance.

[23:55] That is naive, because

[23:56] happiness can never be by itself alone.

[24:04] Like a lotus flower cannot be by

[24:07] herself alone.

[24:09] There should be the mud

[24:11] in order for a lotus to be.

[24:16] So I have a better definition of

[24:20] paradise, of the Kingdom of God.

[24:23] In Buddhism, we don't speak of God

[24:26] and the Kingdom of God.

[24:29] That does not mean that we deny God,

[24:31] and we deny the Kingdom of God.

[24:36] In Buddhism, we speak of the

[24:44] Pure Land of the Buddha.

[24:49] The land of bliss.

[25:04] We know that true happinesss

[25:13] is made of understanding and love.

[25:21] Imagine a person that does not

[25:24] have understanding.

[25:28] He does not understand anything.

[25:33] How can he love?

[25:38] When you don't understand yourself,

[25:43] when you don't understand the other person,

[25:47] how can you love yourself

[25:49] and love him or her?

[25:55] Every one of us needs to be understood.

[26:00] There are those of us who complain that

[26:02] no one in this world understands him or her.

[26:06] Very lonely.

[26:10] So if we have a chance to meet a person

[26:13] who can understand you deeply,

[26:15] you are a lucky person.

[26:21] And you feel grateful to him or to her,

[26:23] because that is a person who has the

[26:25] capacity to understand you.

[26:33] I know a young man in California.

[26:40] He lives with his mother.

[26:44] He graduated from a very famous university,

[26:50] very intelligent, very handsome.

[26:54] He has a good job, a good salary.

[27:01] He had so many girlfriends.

[27:04] Many of them very pretty.

[27:09] And his mother observed and saw him

[27:15] especially interested in one of these

[27:21] girlfriends, but for her,

[27:23] that is not the most beautiful lady.

[27:39] And he spent time more with her,

[27:44] and he seemed to be appreciating her

[27:46] very much.

[27:49] And his mother was surprised, she thought

[27:52] that that young lady, she is not the best,

[27:56] judging on the aspect of beauty and so on.

[28:09] So one day, she could not resist.

[28:12] She said, "My son, I see that you have

[28:15] so many pretty friends, but why

[28:18] are you interested only in that one.

[28:24] That one to me is not the best."

[28:30] And the young man at first

[28:36] did not know how to answer.

[28:42] But when she asked it for the second time,

[28:44] he found an answer.

[28:46] He said, "Mother,

[28:47] because she understands me.

[28:56] Because she understands me.

[28:59] I am a scientist,

[29:01] and I love to write poetry.

[29:04] But when I read my poetry, all the other girls

[29:06] did not seem to be interested very much.

[29:11] But she listened very deeply, and

[29:14] she knows how to appreciate my poetry.

[29:19] And when I say something,

[29:20] she listens with all her attention.

[29:25] I say one thing,

[29:26] she understands two things.

[29:28] [laughter]

[29:33] So, all of us need to be understood.

[29:39] And those who understand us,

[29:43] we are grateful for them.

[29:49] Especially when someone understands

[29:51] your suffering.

[29:54] Every one of us has suffering inside.

[29:58] And if someone understands, recognizes,

[30:01] suffering in us and knows how to help us

[30:03] to suffer less, we are very, very grateful

[30:07] to him or to her. We feel [we are]

[30:10] being loved by that person.

[30:18] A person who has no understanding

[30:25] cannot love, cannot love.

[30:34] They may have passion, craving,

[30:38] but not love.

[30:41] Love is made of understanding.

[30:56] So if in the world you have one person

[31:01] who can understand you,

[31:04] especially your suffering,

[31:06] your difficulties, your despair,

[31:10] then you are a very lucky person already.

[31:14] There are those of us who go and look for

[31:17] search for, such a person,

[31:19] and never meet (them).

[31:26] But as we practise and observe,

[31:28] we see that if you understand

[31:30] your own suffering,

[31:39] then you look at your suffering,

[31:42] and you know how to hold your suffering,

[31:47] and listen to it, and look deeply into it,

[31:54] you'll find out the roots,

[31:57] the nature of your suffering,

[31:59] and that kind of understanding

[32:01] brings the relief right away.

[32:09] And when you have understood your suffering,

[32:11] you suffer much less.

[32:15] Because the understanding of suffering

[32:17] shows you the way

[32:21] to transform that suffering.

[32:23] If you do not understand suffering,

[32:26] you don't know how to transform it.

[32:28] It's like a doctor.

[32:31] Before the doctor sees

[32:34] the nature of the illness in the patient,

[32:37] he cannot do anything to help him.

[32:40] So understanding the disease,

[32:42] the cause of the disease,

[32:44] is crucial for the doctor to prescribe a

[32:49] kind of practice or medicine that can heal.

[32:54] The same thing is true here.

[32:57] If you have a chance to go back

[33:01] to yourself and listen to the suffering

[33:05] inside, and try to understand the nature

[33:09] of that suffering,

[33:13] suddenly you see

[33:17] the way out.

[33:20] And just to see the way out,

[33:21] we suffer less right away.

[33:25] You see the path that leads to

[33:27] the transformation and cessation

[33:33] of the suffering.

[33:37] You suffer less right away,

[33:40] even before you practise.

[33:43] Just see the path, see the way,

[33:47] makes you suffer (less) because

[33:51] you are lucky if you see the path.

[33:55] The spiritual path that leads you

[34:00] to the cessation of your suffering,

[34:02] that leads you the transformation

[34:05] of suffering.

[34:08] We suffer because we are in the dark.

[34:11] We suffer, but we don't know why we suffer

[34:15] and the nature of suffering.

[34:19] So if we know how to understand,

[34:22] to listen to our suffering,

[34:24] the path will be revealed to us.

[34:29] And at that moment, we suffer less,

[34:33] right away, much less.

[34:36] Even if you have not taken the first

[34:39] step on that path.

[34:42] And when you have understood

[34:43] your own suffering, it's much easier

[34:48] to see and understand the suffering

[34:51] of the other person.

[35:01] It means that

[35:03] before you can understand someone else,

[35:05] you have to understand yourself.

[35:08] That insight is not confined to Buddhism,

[35:15] to the Buddha.

[35:16] Many sages, many wise people in the world

[35:21] know that: "connais toi toi même",

[35:24] understand yourself,

[35:28] Understand yourself --- first of all,

[35:30] understand your suffering.

[35:33] Because your suffering carries within it

[35:36] the suffering of your father.

[35:39] Your suffering is also

[35:40] the suffering of your father.

[35:43] Your father had that suffering,

[35:45] but he did not know how to transform it,

[35:48] so he transmitted it to you.

[35:52] Your suffering carries within itself

[35:54] the suffering of your mother,

[35:56] of your ancestors.

[36:01] So understand your own suffering,

[36:03] you understand the suffering

[36:05] of your father, your mother, your ancestors.

[36:08] That is the teaching of the Buddha.

[36:11] And your suffering also reflects the

[36:13] suffering of your partner, of the world.

[36:20] So understanding suffering is

[36:22] the first step.

[36:24] And that is why the first Dharma talk

[36:26] given by the Buddha is about

[36:31] the Four Noble Truths.

[36:34] The first one is suffering,

[36:37] and the second one is the nature,

[36:41] the roots, of our suffering.

[36:44] It's very practical.

[36:48] Right away in the first Dharma Talk.

[36:53] Dukka is suffering; dukka is ill-being.

[37:19] In Chinese, the word suffering also

[37:22] means bitterness.

[37:40] And the Second Noble Truth is

[37:47] the making of suffering,

[37:52] how suffering has come to be.

[38:04] The roots of suffering,

[38:06] the nature of suffering.

[38:09] Suppose you have a depression.

[38:15] A depression is the first Noble Truth.

[38:21] If you have a depression,

[38:24] you should recognize that

[38:28] there is a depression.

[38:32] You cannot say,

[38:33] "I do not have a depression."

[38:36] when you do have a depression,

[38:38] when you have an illness,

[38:41] you have ill-being, suffering, in you.

[38:44] The first thing you should do is

[38:47] to recognize, to admit, that you

[38:49] have the suffering.

[38:51] You have to know that

[38:53] "I have a depression."

[38:55] A depression has come to be in me.

[39:02] Accepting the first Truth is the first step.

[39:11] If you suffer, and you try to say that,

[39:15] "No, I have no suffering",

[39:18] you have no chance in order to transform.

[39:21] So the first thing is to acknowledge

[39:22] the fact that you have suffering.

[39:27] And who amoung us does not have suffering?

[39:36] So we have to confirm the existence,

[39:42] the presence of suffering in us.

[39:45] Suppose there is a depression.

[39:47] We have to say, "There is a depression.

[39:50] A depression has come to settle in."

[39:55] That is the first step of the practice.

[39:58] The second step of the practice

[40:00] is to have the courage

[40:09] to look, to listen, to embrace it.

[40:20] The courage is to recognize it

[40:24] as something existing.

[40:28] The courage is to go back to it

[40:36] and take care of it, and listen to it,

[40:40] and embrace it, in order to understand

[40:48] the nature of that suffering.

[40:53] Because everything has causes.

[40:59] What has come to be

[41:05] should have been brought by something.

[41:09] So looking deeply into the nature of

[41:14] the depression, we see the roots,

[41:22] the cause, the kind of nutriments that

[41:25] we have used in order to feed, to nourish,

[41:30] our depression.

[41:32] The Buddha said this:

[41:34] "Nothing can survive without food."

[41:40] It's very clear.

[41:42] Your happiness, your love, needs food

[41:46] in order to survive.

[41:49] Your love may be beautiful.

[41:52] But if you don't know how to feed it,

[41:54] it will die.

[41:57] It may last 6 months, or one year,

[41:59] and then it turns to be something else.

[42:06] So love needs food in order to survive.

[42:17] And those who love each other should know

[42:21] how to feed their love, the kind of food

[42:27] that can help that love last long,

[42:33] longer and longer.

[42:41] The thought that you produce,

[42:44] a word that you say,

[42:45] an action that you do,

[42:48] may be the kind of nutriment

[42:50] in order to help your love grow and last.

[42:56] Or may cause your love to get thinner.

[43:08] to diminish.

[43:13] So suffering is the same.

[43:20] If your suffering is increasing every day,

[43:25] it's because you keep feeding them

[43:28] by your way of living, daily living.

[43:33] If your depression refuses to go,

[43:36] it's because you

[43:37] keep feeding your depression.

[43:40] Everything you see, everything you listen to,

[43:45] everything you consume in your daily life,

[43:50] may be feeding your depression.

[43:57] So look into your depression,

[43:58] and find out the roots and the nutriments,

[44:06] the food that you have used to feed it.

[44:10] And when you have identified

[44:12] the kind of food that you have used

[44:15] to feed your depression,

[44:18] you have enlightenment.

[44:21] And you need only to cut off the source

[44:24] of nutriment.

[44:26] You deprive your depression of food,

[44:29] and your depression will have to die

[44:30] in a few weeks.

[44:33] Nothing can survive without food.

[44:36] That is the statement made by the Buddha.

[44:40] And the second Noble Truth can be

[44:43] described in terms of food,

[44:48] in terms of nutriment.

[44:52] If your relationship has become difficult,

[44:59] impossible, because you have not nourished

[45:06] your relationship with

[45:09] the right kind of food.

[45:13] You have used poisons in order to

[45:15] nourish that relationship,

[45:17] with the kind of thoughts you produce,

[45:20] the kind of words you utter,

[45:22] the kind of action you perform.

[45:27] So, meditation is to look into the nature

[45:31] of your suffering to find out the

[45:34] source of nutriment that has brought it

[45:38] to you so that you can see the path that

[45:44] leads to the cessation of the suffering.

[45:52] [The bell is awoken.]

[45:56] [The bell is invited to sound.]

[46:10] So this is the roots of ill-being.

[46:21] The making, the accumulation,

[46:34] the making of suffering.

[46:46] But many of us do not want to practise

[46:49] the second Noble Truth.

[46:54] We think that we don't like to do so.

[46:59] We don't want to come home to us,

[47:02] and get in touch with the suffering

[47:04] and listen to it, and look into it to

[47:08] find out how and why it has come to us.

[47:15] Because we don't think of it

[47:18] as something pleasant.

[47:23] So most of us do the opposite;

[47:26] we try to run away from our suffering.

[47:30] We make it sound like we don't suffer.

[47:38] And you try run away.

[47:42] You don't want to go home

[47:44] and encounter the suffering inside,

[47:49] because you are afraid that

[47:52] if you come home and touch the suffering,

[47:55] it will overwhelm you.

[47:59] And that is why most of us in society try

[48:02] to run away.

[48:10] And to cover up,

[48:14] to dissimulate, to pretend that

[48:17] it's not there.

[48:21] There is no suffering.

[48:23] We pretend that everything is alright.

[48:29] We try to deceive us, and

[48:32] we try to deceive other people

[48:35] that we are OK.

[48:37] There is nothing wrong in us.

[48:39] But in fact, there may be a very deep

[48:41] block of suffering inside.

[48:44] So the Buddha recommend that

[48:46] we should not practise that.

[48:50] Because many of us try to cover up the

[48:53] suffering by the way of consumption.

[48:59] If you turn on the television,

[49:03] it's not exactly because there is

[49:05] an interesting program that you can watch,

[49:08] and you can enjoy, and you can learn.

[49:15] Sometimes the TV program is

[49:18] not good at all,

[49:20] and yet you don't have the courage to

[49:22] turn it off, because if you turn it off,

[49:24] you have to go back to yourself.

[49:30] And many of us who are not hungry,

[49:36] who do not have the need to eat,

[49:41] and yet we go and open the refrigerator,

[49:47] and take out something to eat.

[49:50] We eat not because we are hungry.

[49:53] We eat because we want to use eating

[49:58] in order to forget that something

[50:01] is painful in here.

[50:08] And we take our car and go out,

[50:10] we talk on the telephone,

[50:14] we do everything in order not to have to

[50:16] go back to ourselves, in order to touch

[50:22] the suffering inside.

[50:24] This is the opposite of the practice.

[50:27] Because you are afraid of

[50:30] being in touch with your suffering.

[50:35] And the method of the Buddha is that

[50:37] you should train yourself in the practice

[50:41] of mindfulness of breathing, of sitting,

[50:46] of walking.

[50:52] of driving.

[50:55] Because when you practise mindful breathing,

[50:57] mindful walking, you generate an energy.

[51:03] The energy that can help you be strong.

[51:10] And when you go back to yourself with that

[51:13] energy, you are stronger, because that

[51:17] energy help you to recognize your suffering,

[51:20] help you to embrace your suffering,

[51:23] and to listen to it.

[51:26] Without mindfulness, you are only a

[51:35] passive..You are only a passive entity.

[51:42] You'll be overwhelmed.

[51:45] You'll be a victim of the suffering.

[51:48] But with mindfulness,

[51:49] with the energy of mindfulness,

[51:52] you can be active.

[51:58] Because with mindfulness,

[52:01] you have the strength to recognize

[52:04] suffering.

[52:09] "Hello there, my despair.

[52:13] I know you are there.

[52:15] I will take care of you.

[52:19] I am back for you.

[52:22] I am here for you."

[52:24] That is the voice of mindfulness.

[52:26] "Hello, there. I know you are there."

[52:29] "Hello, my little anger, my little despair,

[52:36] I know you are there.

[52:38] I am coming back to you and

[52:40] taking care of you."

[52:41] That is the work of mindfulness.

[52:45] And if you don't practise mindful walking,

[52:48] mindful sitting, mindful breathing,

[52:53] you don't have that energy.

[52:56] That is why Buddhist meditation begins

[52:58] with mindfulness.

[53:00] And mindfulness is the kind of energy

[53:02] that everyone can generate by the practice.

[53:07] When you walk,

[53:10] from your living quarter

[53:13] to the meditation hall,

[53:17] walk in such a way that

[53:18] every step helps generate

[53:22] the energy of mindfulness,

[53:23] mindfulness of walking.

[53:25] When you wash your dishes,

[53:27] don't think of anything else,

[53:29] just focus your attention

[53:31] on dish washing, enjoy dish washing

[53:37] and breathing generating the

[53:40] energy of mindfulness.

[53:43] And in Plum Village, we do like that.

[53:48] We do everything in mindfulness.

[53:51] We eat in mindfulness.

[53:54] We cook in mindfulness.

[53:56] We clean in mindfulness.

[53:59] Because that energy of mindfulness is

[54:04] the energy that can heal.

[54:07] that can transform.

[54:09] So with mindfulness, you can go home

[54:11] to yourself without fear.

[54:15] With mindfulness, you can say

[54:17] "Hello, my despair. Hello, my anger.

[54:21] I know you are there.

[54:23] I will take good care of you."

[54:26] And with that same energy of mindfulness,

[54:29] you can embrace tenderly your pain,

[54:35] your sorrow, and listen to it.

[54:40] It's like a mother holding her ailing baby

[54:45] and listen to the baby, why the baby

[54:49] suffer like that?

[54:52] So your suffering is your baby.

[55:05] When the mother does not know

[55:06] what is wrong with the baby yet,

[55:10] but the fact that she's holding the baby

[55:12] with tenderness, can help the baby

[55:15] suffer less right away.

[55:18] So with mindfulness, you are holding

[55:20] your suffering. You have not seen

[55:23] really the roots of that suffering,

[55:27] but the fact that you are there for

[55:29] your suffering, holding it tenderly,

[55:33] not trying to run away from it,

[55:36] can already bring some relief

[55:38] and you suffer less.

[55:41] Sitting or walking and embracing tenderly

[55:45] your suffering, can already bring relief.

[55:53] And if you are sitting in a group of people,

[55:59] who are capable of generating

[56:01] mindfulness, you can make good use

[56:05] of that collective energy of mindfulness

[56:09] in order to recognize and embrace

[56:13] the pain in you.

[56:17] It's like a drop of water in a river.

[56:21] She allows the whole river to embrace her,

[56:27] to carry her, to guide her.

[56:33] So sitting in a Sangha, in a group of

[56:37] brothers and sisters in the practice,

[56:39] you say, "Dear brothers and sisters,

[56:43] here is my pain. Here is my despair.

[56:48] Help me embrace this because I am only

[56:53] a beginner in the practice."

[56:56] So you open your heart, and allow

[56:58] the collective energy of the Sangha

[57:02] to recognize and embrace your pain.

[57:05] And if you do that, in a few minutes,

[57:07] you suffer less.

[57:09] You get relief.

[57:11] And that is what we call taking refuge

[57:14] in the Sangha, trust the Sangha,

[57:16] like a drop of water trusting the river.

[57:23] It's easier to practise with a community.

[57:27] The community is a jewel,

[57:30] one of the three jewels.

[57:33] Buddha is a jewel; Dharma is a jewel;

[57:35] Sangha is a jewel.

[57:38] And Sangha is very concrete.

[57:41] The Sangha is made of practionners.

[57:44] Members of the Sangha are capable of generating

[57:47] mindfulness, concentration and insight.

[57:51] So Sangha is carrying also the Dharma.

[57:58] A true Sangha has the true Dharma in it.

[58:07] And where there is the Dharma,

[58:09] the Buddha is there also.

[58:12] So the Sangha carries within herself

[58:17] the Dharma and the Buddha.

[58:21] Don't look for the Buddha

[58:23] in the temple or in the sky.

[58:26] The Buddha is in the Sangha action.

[58:31] Because the Sangha knows how to generate

[58:33] mindfulness, concentration and insight.

[58:36] A Buddha is someone inhabited by

[58:39] these kind of energies.

[58:43] And we are all capable of generating

[58:47] these three kinds of energies.

[58:49] We are a Buddha to be.

[59:00] [The bell is awoken.]

[59:04] [The bell is invited to sound.]

[59:41] Mindfulness also carries within itself

[59:47] the energy of concentration.

[59:52] Together mindfulness and concentration

[59:54] can bring insight,

[59:57] that has the power to bring relief.

[1:00:06] The practice of concentration can be

[1:00:09] very powerful.

[1:00:11] It can allow us to gain

[1:00:16] the kind of insight that can liberate us.

[1:00:25] We don't need to change the environment

[1:00:30] in order to be happy

[1:00:34] If we get an insight, we have

[1:00:37] another way of looking.

[1:00:42] and we don't suffer anymore.

[1:00:45] So please don't think that unless you

[1:00:47] change the environment,

[1:00:49] you change the partner,

[1:00:55] you cannot be happy.

[1:00:56] Don't think like that!

[1:00:59] You suffer because of your way of looking

[1:01:02] at things.

[1:01:05] You suffer because you do not have

[1:01:06] enough insight.

[1:01:10] And insight is obtained by the

[1:01:13] practice of mindfulness and concentration.

[1:01:18] And insight is something very concrete.

[1:01:22] It's like the left side of a

[1:01:26] sheet of paper and the right side.

[1:01:30] The left cannot be without the right.

[1:01:36] If you think that happiness is

[1:01:41] an individual matter, you are wrong.

[1:01:48] The father cannot be truly happy

[1:01:50] if the son suffers deeply.

[1:01:54] The son cannot look for individual

[1:01:57] happiness when his father suffers deeply.

[1:02:03] So happiness is not an individual thing.

[1:02:06] If you can make your father suffer less,

[1:02:09] you suffer less.

[1:02:12] So that is the insight of interbeing.

[1:02:17] The insight of interbeing is that

[1:02:19] you are in your father.

[1:02:22] And your father is in you.

[1:02:26] And there are young people who say,

[1:02:30] who are so angry at their father,

[1:02:35] and who say,

[1:02:37] "I don't want to have anything to do

[1:02:40] with that person!", namely their father.

[1:02:48] It's nonsense. Because looking into

[1:02:52] the son, you see the father.

[1:02:56] His father is there in every cell

[1:02:58] of his body.

[1:03:00] And how can he say, "I don't want to

[1:03:02] have anything to do with him anymore"?

[1:03:08] You cannot take your father out of you.

[1:03:12] It's like you cannot take the tree out

[1:03:14] of the sheet of paper.

[1:03:23] So when the father see him in the son,

[1:03:27] and the son sees him in the father,

[1:03:30] they got the insight of interbeing.

[1:03:32] They know that making each other suffer

[1:03:40] is something stupid.

[1:03:43] Helping him to suffer less,

[1:03:45] you suffer less.

[1:03:49] Anything you do for yourself to suffer less,

[1:03:52] you do for him.

[1:03:55] So that is the insight you get by

[1:03:58] mindfulness and concentration.

[1:04:02] So many of us believe that unless

[1:04:05] we divorce, unless we change the

[1:04:09] environment, we cannot be happy.

[1:04:12] Unless we go to another place...

[1:04:21] we cannot be happy.

[1:04:27] But in this teaching, you only need to

[1:04:29] change your way of seeing things,

[1:04:36] by getting the insight.

[1:04:41] And when you get the insight,

[1:04:45] you don't suffer anymore.

[1:04:48] This is salvation not by grace,

[1:04:58] but by insight.

[1:05:10] In the beginning of this talk,

[1:05:14] Thay has said that,

[1:05:16] he said that,

[1:05:19] when you have understood your own

[1:05:21] suffering and suffer less,

[1:05:25] you are capable of seeing the suffering

[1:05:28] in the other person much more easily.

[1:05:37] Before that, you believe that you are the

[1:05:40] only one who suffers.

[1:05:42] That person only makes you suffer.

[1:05:44] He does not suffer.

[1:05:47] But now since you have mindfulness

[1:05:50] and concentration that help you to

[1:05:52] understand your own suffering,

[1:05:56] you know that suffering is made

[1:05:57] mainly by ourselves.

[1:06:00] And you see the other person,

[1:06:02] you see the suffering in him,

[1:06:04] the difficulties in him,

[1:06:05] the despair in him.

[1:06:07] You see that that person has so much

[1:06:09] suffering in him and he does not know

[1:06:13] how to handle the suffering,

[1:06:15] to transform the suffering,

[1:06:16] so he continues to be victim

[1:06:19] of that suffering.

[1:06:22] And since he does not know

[1:06:24] how to handle suffering,

[1:06:26] he continues to suffer and

[1:06:28] he continues to make

[1:06:32] people around him suffer.

[1:06:34] His suffering is spilling over around him.

[1:06:39] He is the first victim of his suffering,

[1:06:42] and you are only a second victim.

[1:06:47] And maybe he did not want you to suffer.

[1:06:52] He has no intention to make you suffer.

[1:06:55] because he does not know how to handle

[1:06:58] suffering, and that is why

[1:07:00] you have to suffer with him.

[1:07:03] So that is the kind of insight you get

[1:07:08] when you look at the other person.

[1:07:11] And when you have seen that that person

[1:07:13] has a lot of suffering, of difficulties,

[1:07:17] unable to handle the suffering and

[1:07:19] difficulties, then you know that that

[1:07:22] person needs help,

[1:07:24] and does not need punishment.

[1:07:27] And you may think that you can help

[1:07:29] him or her.

[1:07:32] You want to say something

[1:07:33] or to do something

[1:07:35] to help him suffer less.

[1:07:38] It means that you have understood,

[1:07:43] and the understanding has given rise

[1:07:45] to compassion.

[1:07:50] So the same person,

[1:07:53] and you don't suffer anymore.

[1:07:56] You don't deal with that person with anger

[1:07:58] and despair anymore.

[1:08:01] But you see hope, you see love.

[1:08:09] You think that if you divorce, and

[1:08:11] then the problem will no longer be there.

[1:08:15] That's not true.

[1:08:18] You have been with him or with her

[1:08:21] quite a few years already,

[1:08:23] and now he is in you,

[1:08:26] even if the paper has been signed.

[1:08:31] You cannot get him out of you.

[1:08:34] He will be with you for all your life.

[1:08:37] She will be with you for all your life.

[1:08:43] So the only way is to practise in order to

[1:08:46] transform you and transform him in you.

[1:08:51] And if you are transformed,

[1:08:54] if you get light, liberated, you can help

[1:08:58] the other person transform and get light.

[1:09:05] And you don't have to change anything.

[1:09:07] You don't have to change partners,

[1:09:10] you don't have to change environment.

[1:09:14] You have to change

[1:09:15] your way of looking at things.

[1:09:17] And you do that only

[1:09:18] when you have insight.

[1:09:20] Insight is gotten by the practice of

[1:09:23] mindfulness, concentration.

[1:09:26] [A bird cawing loudly.]

[1:09:32] And since you have suffered,

[1:09:38] you have the mud.

[1:09:42] And if you know how to make good use

[1:09:44] of the mud, you can grow beautiful

[1:09:45] lotus flowers.

[1:09:48] So suffering plays a certain role

[1:09:52] in making happiness.

[1:10:04] If there is no suffering,

[1:10:08] how can understanding arise,

[1:10:15] and how can compassion arise?

[1:10:20] And understanding and compasssion

[1:10:22] are the foundation of happiness.

[1:10:28] And you know that in order to create

[1:10:30] understanding and compassion,

[1:10:35] you need a substance, that is suffering.

[1:10:41] So to practise, a good practionner is

[1:10:45] someone who knows how to make

[1:10:50] good use use of suffering in order to

[1:10:53] create understanding and compassion.

[1:11:00] And you don't have to

[1:11:01] produce more suffering.

[1:11:03] There is enough,

[1:11:05] more than enough suffering already.

[1:11:07] So the problem is how make good use of it.

[1:11:10] [A bird is cawing in the background.]

[1:11:15] She (the bird) agrees with me.

[1:11:17] [laughter]

[1:11:22] So my definition of the Kingdom of God

[1:11:24] is not a place where there is no suffering.

[1:11:28] The Kingdom of God is a place where people

[1:11:31] know how to make good use of suffering

[1:11:33] in order to create understanding and

[1:11:38] compassion and love.

[1:11:42] I am sure, I am

[1:11:49] more than convinced.

[1:11:52] I see very clearly that there is suffering

[1:11:54] in the Kingdom of God.

[1:11:58] If there is no suffering,

[1:12:01] you have no way to create

[1:12:03] understanding and compassion.

[1:12:07] Suffering is very useful,

[1:12:11] and we can speak about

[1:12:13] the "goodness of suffering",

[1:12:17] "les bienfaits de la souffrance".

[1:12:29] If you don't have the mud,

[1:12:31] you can never make lotus flowers.

[1:12:34] If you have no suffering

[1:12:36] you can never create happiness and joy.

[1:12:41] And that is the insight of interbeing.

[1:12:47] So in the beginning of the talk,

[1:12:49] Thầy has said that a good practionner

[1:12:51] is someone who knows how to generate

[1:12:55] joy and happiness.

[1:12:58] And someone who knows how to handle

[1:13:03] and transform suffering.

[1:13:06] And these two things together,

[1:13:08] go together.

[1:13:12] And this practice helps the other practice.

[1:13:16] If you know how to handle suffering,

[1:13:18] it's easier for you to produce

[1:13:20] joy and happiness. If you know how

[1:13:22] to produce joy and happiness,

[1:13:25] it's easier for you to handle suffering.

[1:13:33] The right and left, they lean on

[1:13:38] each other, they support each other,

[1:13:42] they are not enemies.

[1:13:44] Suffering is not an enemy.

[1:13:45] It may be your ally.

[1:13:52] So the fifth exercise of mindfulness

[1:13:55] of breathing is to generate joy.

[1:14:08] And the sixth is to generate happiness.

[1:14:20] And if we are a practionner,

[1:14:26] we should learn how to do that.

[1:14:29] A good practionner can generate

[1:14:31] a feeling of joy, a feeling of happiness,

[1:14:35] whenever she wants.

[1:14:41] For them and for the other person.

[1:14:49] But the how is very clear.

[1:14:55] The practice of mindfulness helps us

[1:14:58] to bring our mind home to our body.

[1:15:04] Remember the last Dharma talk?

[1:15:09] And when mind and body are together,

[1:15:12] you are fully present in

[1:15:14] the here and the now.

[1:15:16] In our daily lives, your mind and your body

[1:15:20] are very often apart.

[1:15:25] Remember the computer.

[1:15:27] You spend two hours with your computer.

[1:15:31] You let your body... you forget that

[1:15:33] you have a body.

[1:15:40] So when mind and body are together,

[1:15:44] you enjoy breathing in, breathing out.

[1:15:47] You are established in the here and the now.

[1:15:50] You see your body as a wonder.

[1:15:53] You see the sunshine, the rain, the trees,

[1:15:59] the hills, as wonders.

[1:16:01] You know that you are healthy enough.

[1:16:06] Your eyes are still clear,

[1:16:09] in good condition.

[1:16:11] Your heart is still pumping the blood well.

[1:16:16] You have feet strong enough to walk, to run.

[1:16:22] You have the good air, to breathe.

[1:16:26] There are so many conditions of happiness

[1:16:28] that are available in the here and the now.

[1:16:33] So, getting in touch with these elements

[1:16:36] of happiness.... elements that are

[1:16:43] refreshing and healing and nourishing,

[1:16:52] you generate a feeling of joy.

[1:16:57] Many of us have plenty of

[1:16:59] conditions of happiness,

[1:17:03] available in the here and the now.

[1:17:05] But we are carried away by a feeling of

[1:17:08] anger, of fear, and we ignore everything.

[1:17:11] We step on these conditions of happiness.

[1:17:14] We are wasting ...

[1:17:18] So mindfulness helps us to recognize

[1:17:21] these conditions of happiness.

[1:17:25] And when we are in touch,

[1:17:28] a feeling of joy, a feeling of happiness,

[1:17:30] arises very easily.

[1:17:33] Last time Thầy talked about

[1:17:38] opening the water tap with mindfulness.

[1:17:42] With mindfulness, you see that the water

[1:17:45] has come from up in the mountain,

[1:17:49] down on the earth, come to your kitchen.

[1:17:55] And (to) allow this fresh water to flow

[1:18:03] on your fingers can be a happy,

[1:18:05] can be a happy moment. It's a wonder.

[1:18:09] There are people in the world who have

[1:18:11] to go 5 kilometers to fetch some water,

[1:18:15] and not of a good quality.

[1:18:18] We are very lucky.

[1:18:20] Even if we have just lost our job,

[1:18:25] but we are still much luckier than

[1:18:28] so many people.

[1:18:30] So, recognizing that we are lucky,

[1:18:33] that we still have plenty of conditions

[1:18:35] of happiness, that can give rise to

[1:18:38] a joyful feeling, a feeling of gratitude,

[1:18:44] a feeling of happiness.

[1:18:47] You remind yourself with mindfulness,

[1:18:51] and you remind the other person,

[1:18:55] that both of you are lucky.

[1:19:00] Before eating your breakfast,

[1:19:05] look at the other person and say,

[1:19:07] "Darling, don't you think we are lucky?

[1:19:13] We have a roof to live under,

[1:19:16] we have something for breakfast,

[1:19:17] we are still together."

[1:19:21] Remind ourselves and remind others,

[1:19:25] "There is no war going on around here!"

[1:19:34] And if you have suffered in the past,

[1:19:38] bring the suffering back into the

[1:19:39] present moment in order to compare.

[1:19:43] And against the background of suffering,

[1:19:45] happiness will stand out very clearly.

[1:19:52] You know that during the war in Vietnam,

[1:19:55] you hear the sound of the guns,

[1:20:00] day and night, and your wish is that

[1:20:06] you can sleep better

[1:20:09] without the sound of the guns.

[1:20:12] But here, there is no sound of guns

[1:20:16] at night.

[1:20:17] You have peace.

[1:20:22] Our workers in the School of

[1:20:24] Youth for Social Service in Vietnam,

[1:20:31] young monks and nuns and laypeople,

[1:20:35] we have rebuilt many villages that

[1:20:38] have been destroyed by the bombing.

[1:20:49] The war in Vietnam lasted 30 years.

[1:20:58] The first part of it was waged by the

[1:21:04] French Army, from 1945,

[1:21:15] And then, long after that, the French

[1:21:17] did not have enough money to continue

[1:21:19] the war, so Americans were financing

[1:21:23] the war in Vietnam,

[1:21:28] out of fear of communism,

[1:21:32] and thinking that if Vietnam fall

[1:21:34] into communism, and then

[1:21:36] all the countries of Southeast Asia

[1:21:39] will follow, in the theory of dominoes.

[1:21:46] So fear is under, is the foundation

[1:21:51] of the action.

[1:21:52] So millions of people were killed.

[1:21:56] Many French soldiers died in Vietnam.

[1:22:00] Many American soldiers died in Vietnam.

[1:22:02] And we lost about 6 million people in the war.

[1:22:10] And our social workers worked

[1:22:12] in that difficult situation.

[1:22:16] There was a village that was bombarded

[1:22:19] by the Americans.

[1:22:25] That village is situated near the

[1:22:28] demilitarized zone in the village,

[1:22:30] in Trà Lộc.

[1:22:34] That zone separated

[1:22:36] the North and the South.

[1:22:39] And our workers received the order

[1:22:42] to rebuild that village.

[1:22:47] And then, it was

[1:22:49] bombarded again, for the second time.

[1:22:57] And local workers, monks, nuns and others,

[1:23:03] asked whether they should rebuild

[1:23:05] the village of Trà Lộc.

[1:23:08] We said, "Yes, we have to rebuild!"

[1:23:17] In the province of Quảng Trị,

[1:23:22] near the 17th parallel,

[1:23:26] Trà Lộc.

[1:23:40] Then it was bombarded for the third time.

[1:23:52] And we met at the headquarters of

[1:23:56] the School of Youth for Social Service,

[1:23:59] and after debate, we said,

[1:24:01] "Rebuild it again!" Third time.

[1:24:08] And it was bombarded again,

[1:24:11] for the fourth time.

[1:24:20] The problem is not the materials in

[1:24:23] order to rebuild. The problem is

[1:24:28] whether we have to give up or to continue.

[1:24:35] What is the use of building

[1:24:37] in order to be destroyed?

[1:24:41] That is the question asked by many people.

[1:24:47] But psychologically, if you give up

[1:24:51] then despair will overwhelm.

[1:24:56] And despair is the worst thing

[1:24:58] that can happen to a human being.

[1:25:03] So if we gave the order to build it

[1:25:06] for the fourth time,

[1:25:08] you know, we rebuild it 5 times.

[1:25:15] We rebuild it because we don't want

[1:25:18] people to be victims of despair.

[1:25:25] Not because we .. we...we.. we

[1:25:34] we have enough materials and money

[1:25:37] in order to do that.

[1:25:38] That is a psychological problem.

[1:25:44] And when people are

[1:25:46] overwhelmed with despair,

[1:25:50] that is the form of suffering that is

[1:25:59] the most difficult, the kind of suffering

[1:26:01] that is most difficult to bear.

[1:26:04] I remember, many young people came to me,

[1:26:07] and asked, "Thầy, do you think that

[1:26:10] that the war is going to end soon?"

[1:26:17] That was about 20 years after

[1:26:20] the war had started.

[1:26:23] People died every day, every night.

[1:26:29] And in our School of Youth for Social Service,

[1:26:32] we went to rescue people,

[1:26:38] to help the wounded people,

[1:26:42] to bring relief,

[1:26:44] to organize refugee camps,

[1:27:01] war refugee camps.

[1:27:07] And many of us, including monastics, died

[1:27:10] during the operation.

[1:27:19] "Dear Thầy" -- it was a group of students

[1:27:24] from many faculties of the University

[1:27:27] of Saigon who came and asked Thầy --

[1:27:30] "do you think that the war will end soon?

[1:27:33] Is there is any hope? "

[1:27:36] More than 20 years already.

[1:27:39] It is very difficult question to answer.

[1:27:44] Thầy did not see any hope.

[1:27:54] There is no light at the end of the tunnel.

[1:28:03] But how can Thầy say there is no hope?

[1:28:08] That will destroy them.

[1:28:12] That will crush them, the young people.

[1:28:17] So after having breathed in and out

[1:28:20] a few times, then Thầy said,

[1:28:22] "My dear friends, the Buddha said

[1:28:25] everything is impermanent.

[1:28:28] The war also should be impermanent.

[1:28:31] The war has to end some day.

[1:28:35] So let us continue."

[1:28:47] So as far as the global warming in concerned,

[1:28:57] many of us are about to fall into despair.

[1:29:01] We have not seen any sign of the..

[1:29:06] But if we allow ourselves to be

[1:29:08] overwhelmed by despair,

[1:29:10] we lose our lucidity, we lose our hope,

[1:29:15] and we get the situation worse,

[1:29:18] very quickly.

[1:29:20] That is why we have to practice

[1:29:22] in order to get the kind of insight that

[1:29:27] can help us prevent despair to descend,

[1:29:33] to allow us to continue with clarity

[1:29:41] and non-fear.

[1:29:52] So, generating joy and happiness is

[1:29:59] what the Buddha says that we should do,

[1:30:04] using mindfulness in order to create

[1:30:08] a feeling of joy and happiness.

[1:30:11] Because all of us need

[1:30:17] to be nourished.

[1:30:23] And joy and happiness can be possible

[1:30:28] in a difficult situation also.

[1:30:32] And that is why during the war,

[1:30:33] our workers continue the practice.

[1:30:40] The practice of mindfulness allows us to

[1:30:43] get in touch with the good things,

[1:30:47] so that we can get the nourishment and

[1:30:50] the healing to continue.

[1:30:53] We have to invent joy and happiness

[1:30:56] in order to survive.

[1:31:02] Suppose you have a beautiful garden,

[1:31:06] where you have 30 beautiful trees.

[1:31:12] And if 5 of the trees in your garden

[1:31:18] just fall down.

[1:31:22] Very beautiful trees.

[1:31:27] And you are sad, and you may be possessed

[1:31:32] by that kind of sadness that you are

[1:31:34] no longer able to enjoy your garden.

[1:31:38] But in the garden there are another twenty

[1:31:40] trees that are still beautiful, vigorous.

[1:31:49] So it's not because a number of trees have

[1:31:51] died that you stop enjoying the trees.

[1:31:58] So suffering and happiness happen

[1:32:00] at the same time, in every one of us.

[1:32:03] It's not because you have some suffering

[1:32:06] that we do not have the capacity to enjoy

[1:32:09] the other part that is not suffering.

[1:32:13] And that is why even in the most

[1:32:15] desperate situation,

[1:32:18] you have to preserve yourself

[1:32:22] by generating moments of

[1:32:24] joy and happiness together.

[1:32:34] Suppose you are having, you have something,

[1:32:43] you are having lunch.

[1:32:50] On the table, there is an orange, there is

[1:32:58] a squash, with the rice,

[1:33:02] with the vegetables.

[1:33:05] And even if, if we just get some,

[1:33:11] some bad news,

[1:33:15] we should try to eat our lunch in

[1:33:17] such a way that we can get the nourishment

[1:33:24] and healing during eating.

[1:33:30] It is possible to pick up a fruit,

[1:33:38] a vegetable, and see that this is a gift

[1:33:42] of Mother Earth.

[1:33:45] We still have love.

[1:33:50] So if you are able to enjoy your lunch,

[1:33:55] your eating with mindfulness,

[1:33:59] if you can appreciate the fact that

[1:34:01] you are still together,

[1:34:04] you are still a family,

[1:34:07] you have still a chance to

[1:34:11] share a lunch together,

[1:34:14] that is the positive things.

[1:34:18] Even in a difficult situation,

[1:34:21] we still have to be able to

[1:34:23] generate a feeling of gratitude, of joy,

[1:34:27] of happiness, to nourish us.

[1:34:33] And then if you are nourished like that,

[1:34:35] you are stronger in order to handle

[1:34:40] the situation of suffering.

[1:34:45] So in order to transform and heal,

[1:34:53] you need nourishment.

[1:34:57] It's like a person who is about to

[1:35:00] undergo surgery.

[1:35:03] And if a doctor judges that this person is

[1:35:06] too weak, in order to go to the operation,

[1:35:12] and then he will give the order to

[1:35:15] postpone the surgery and to help

[1:35:20] that person get a little bit stronger,

[1:35:26] in order to be able to resist, to stand,

[1:35:30] the surgery.

[1:35:32] So it's the same.

[1:35:35] We have a block of pain.

[1:35:38] We may think that unless I

[1:35:42] take out this block of pain,

[1:35:44] I cannot enjoy life.

[1:35:49] And that is not the best way of thinking.

[1:35:53] Even if there are trees that have died,

[1:35:56] there are still many trees that are alive.

[1:35:59] And you should be able to sit under the

[1:36:01] beautiful trees and say that

[1:36:03] "We still have beautiful trees."

[1:36:06] And if you know how to enjoy the

[1:36:07] beautiful trees, you have more strength

[1:36:10] in order to rebuild, re-plant the other trees.

[1:36:15] So the practice of generating joy

[1:36:18] and happiness helps you in the process

[1:36:23] of handling suffering.

[1:36:26] So a good practionner should know how to

[1:36:29] generate a feeling of joy and happiness

[1:36:32] by touching the good things, the positive

[1:36:35] things, the things that are nourishing and

[1:36:38] healing us, that are still available.

[1:36:42] And that is the work of mindfulness.

[1:36:44] Mindfulness allows us to recognize

[1:36:46] these things as available.

[1:36:50] And mindfulness helps you to remind

[1:36:53] the other person, "Dear one, we are still

[1:36:57] very lucky. Let us be thankful, so that

[1:37:02] we are strong enough in order to handle

[1:37:06] the difficulties that we have had."

[1:37:15] And the seventh exercise of

[1:37:20] mindful breathing is to...

[1:37:25] is to recognize

[1:37:31] pain. Ill-being.

[1:37:38] Have the courage!

[1:37:41] to acknowledge the fact that

[1:37:45] there is suffering in me.

[1:37:49] To come home with mindfulness

[1:37:53] in order to recognize and to embrace,

[1:37:56] not to suppress.

[1:37:59] The mother doesn't suppress her baby.

[1:38:03] The mother acknowledges the baby,

[1:38:08] sees the suffering of the baby,

[1:38:10] picks up the baby and holds the baby

[1:38:14] in tenderness.

[1:38:15] That is what a good practionner will do.

[1:38:19] Go home to your baby, your suffering baby.

[1:38:22] Be there for your baby.

[1:38:25] Embrace it tenderly, and get a relief.

[1:38:37] You cannot do this unless you have

[1:38:40] the energy of mindfulness.

[1:38:43] That is why when walking from your tent to

[1:38:46] the meditation hall, don't talk!

[1:38:54] Don't think.

[1:38:57] Walk in such a way that every step

[1:38:59] generates mindfulness,

[1:39:02] every step brings the joy,

[1:39:09] brings the happiness, of being alive,

[1:39:12] touching the wonders of life.

[1:39:14] That helps the healing.

[1:39:16] You nourish yourself by that.

[1:39:20] So in our walking meditation,

[1:39:23] we stop the thinking. The thinking

[1:39:25] takes us away from the here and the now.

[1:39:29] We just feel.

[1:39:31] We just touch, feel the contact between

[1:39:35] our feet and Mother Earth.

[1:39:40] Allow Mother Earth to heal you.

[1:39:42] Allow the wonders of life

[1:39:47] to penetrate

[1:39:50] your body, and trust.

[1:39:52] Trust Mother Earth as source of healing.

[1:39:58] You breathe in the air;

[1:40:00] the air can be healing.

[1:40:06] You get, you allow the beautiful

[1:40:13] green colour to penetrate into your mind

[1:40:17] or body. That is healing.

[1:40:20] Every step can be healing,

[1:40:21] Every breath can be healing.

[1:40:25] And Mother Earth is not only around you.

[1:40:28] She is inside of you.

[1:40:31] Allow her to heal you.

[1:40:37] Because Mother Earth is a

[1:40:42] a most beautiful Bodhisattva,

[1:40:48] beautiful Mother, of all of us.

[1:40:52] Mother of Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, and Saints.

[1:41:00] She has brought us to life,

[1:41:02] and she will receive us back.

[1:41:06] And bring us to life again and again.

[1:41:12] We have to trust.

[1:41:16] Mother Earth is not the environment.

[1:41:19] Mother Earth is us, is a being,

[1:41:29] a great being, Mahasattva.

[1:41:38] And the eighth exercise of

[1:41:42] mindful breathing is calming,

[1:41:47] calming the pain.

[1:41:56] Whether that pain is a painful feeling,

[1:42:01] a difficult, unpleasant feeling or a

[1:42:12] strong emotion like fear, anger, despair.

[1:42:17] We have to go home and take care of that.

[1:42:22] And with the energy of mindfulness.

[1:42:26] So in our daily life, everything we do,

[1:42:31] every minute we live, can be used in order

[1:42:34] to generate the energy of mindfulness.

[1:42:40] Even when you brush your teeth, brush them

[1:42:43] in mindfulness and enjoy the time of

[1:42:46] tooth brushing;

[1:42:48] it can bring you happiness.

[1:42:58] [The bell is invited.]

[1:43:19] There are many ways of generating

[1:43:21] joy and happiness

[1:43:25] with mindfulness,

[1:43:28] including the practice of

[1:43:30] selective watering.

[1:43:35] You have a seed joy,

[1:43:39] memory of happiness,

[1:43:42] and a seed of love,

[1:43:46] and a seed of understanding in you.

[1:43:53] And the other person also has many good

[1:43:55] seeds in him or in her.

[1:44:00] She has talents; she has tolerance;

[1:44:11] she is capable of forgiving.

[1:44:16] And you also have these good things.

[1:44:20] So recognize these things,

[1:44:22] and allow them to manifest.

[1:44:28] Say something, listen to something

[1:44:33] in order to allow the good things in us

[1:44:36] to manifest.

[1:44:39] When you listen to a Dharma Talk,

[1:44:44] the Dharma Talk is a kind of rain

[1:44:47] penetrating into the soil

[1:44:49] of your consciousness.

[1:44:52] In the soil in your consciousness,

[1:44:54] there is a seed of love.

[1:44:56] There's a seed of understanding;

[1:45:00] there's a seed of mindfulness;

[1:45:02] there's a seed of peace;

[1:45:03] there's a seed of compassion.

[1:45:06] And if we allow the rain of the Dharma Talk

[1:45:10] to penetrate deep into the

[1:45:13] soil of your consciousness,

[1:45:20] and then these seeds will sprout,

[1:45:23] and that gives you joy and happiness.

[1:45:31] You can read a book.

[1:45:35] You can listen to a good conversation,

[1:45:40] that has the power to recognize and

[1:45:46] water the good seeds

[1:45:48] so that they can come up.

[1:45:51] And joy and happiness become a reality.

[1:45:55] And you can water the soil of mind

[1:45:59] of the other person.

[1:46:01] He/She has many good things.

[1:46:04] Don't water the seed of anger, fear,

[1:46:07] jealousy in him or in her.

[1:46:12] Water the seed of understanding,

[1:46:13] compassion, joy,

[1:46:16] and you see that that person

[1:46:21] can be joyful and happy, right away.

[1:46:25] It does not take much time; very quick.

[1:46:29] That is the practice of selective watering.

[1:46:33] You water only the good seeds in you

[1:46:36] and in the other person.

[1:46:39] You acknowledge the talents, the virtues

[1:46:43] of that person.

[1:46:44] You say that you are grateful for them.

[1:46:48] You create happiness and joy right away.

[1:46:52] There are many ways of producing

[1:46:56] joy and happiness.

[1:46:58] And there are also many ways of ...

[1:47:03] to handle the pain.

[1:47:09] Maybe the first is to just

[1:47:11] recognize the pain and not exaggerate.

[1:47:18] Because sometimes you have something

[1:47:23] that disturbs you, in your body or

[1:47:27] in your mind, and you suffer.

[1:47:32] In that moment, you allow suffering

[1:47:36] to overwhelm you.

[1:47:38] You forget all about the good things.

[1:47:45] And that is not a good thing to do.

[1:47:49] Recognizing that there are a number of

[1:47:51] trees that are dying,

[1:47:53] but you remember there are many things

[1:47:55] that are still alive and beautiful.

[1:47:59] That is the truth.

[1:48:04] And then, do not exaggerate.

[1:48:08] If you have something that seems to be

[1:48:12] wrong in your body, don't panic,

[1:48:16] don't think that you are going to die

[1:48:18] very soon.

[1:48:23] And this the Buddha taught us.

[1:48:30] If you have a pain in your body,

[1:48:32] if you have some pain in your mind,

[1:48:35] just recognize it as it is,

[1:48:39] and do not exaggerate.

[1:48:48] And he gave the example of someone

[1:48:51] who is struck by an arrow.

[1:48:55] You are struck by an arrow, and you suffer.

[1:48:58] But if a second arrow comes and strikes

[1:49:01] you exactly at the same spot,

[1:49:04] the pain will not only be double but

[1:49:07] maybe 10 times more painful.

[1:49:13] So if you allow

[1:49:15] your anger, your despair, your fear,

[1:49:18] to come

[1:49:21] just because of that minor pain

[1:49:24] in your body and in your mind,

[1:49:29] then you suffer 10 times, 100 times more.

[1:49:35] So, that is the practice of

[1:49:38] simple recognition, mere recognition.

[1:49:43] If there is a minor pain, you know that

[1:49:45] there is a minor pain.

[1:49:48] If needed, you need a doctor,

[1:49:51] you need a friend, to look with you

[1:49:57] so that you can recognize

[1:50:01] the pain as it is and do not exaggerate.

[1:50:05] If you exaggerate by...

[1:50:07] you amplify the pain by...

[1:50:11] by imagination, you think you are going

[1:50:15] to die very soon.

[1:50:19] You think that is a cancer.

[1:50:26] If you get angry at it,

[1:50:33] if you worry too much,

[1:50:35] and then you amplify the suffering.

[1:50:38] So the first thing the Buddha recognized

[1:50:41] is to... the Buddha said is to recognize

[1:50:45] the pain as it is and do not exaggerate.

[1:50:49] It means, do not allow

[1:50:52] the second arrow to come.

[1:50:58] And sometimes the second arrow

[1:50:59] comes from another person.

[1:51:03] He or she worries too much,

[1:51:06] and that makes you worry also.

[1:51:21] [The bell is awoken.]

[1:51:29] Subtitles by the Amara.org community

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Vietnamese Zen master, poet, and peace activist. Founded Plum Village in France and was central to the engaged Buddhism movement. His teachings on mindfulness, interbeing, and walk…

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Interbeing means that nothing exists in isolation; everything co-arises with everything else. A sheet of paper cannot exist without trees, rain, sun, loggers, and mills—all are contained in the paper. Similarly, you cannot exist without parents, ancestors, food, air, water, and the whole cosmos. You are not a separate self but interconnected with all beings.
The Buddha discouraged metaphysical speculation because it wastes time that should be spent healing suffering. He used the parable of the poisoned arrow: a man shot with a poison arrow refuses treatment until learning who shot him and why—he would die waiting. Your urgent suffering cannot wait for abstract answers about whether the world is finite.
Insight is not intellectual but lived understanding gained through mindfulness practice. When you breathe mindfully, you directly perceive your connection to air and trees. When you observe your emotions, you see how mind and body are not separate. This direct seeing, not thinking, is how Buddhist insight arises and why Buddhism is practical, not theoretical.
Rather than rejecting suffering, treat it as your baby—listen to it with tenderness and curiosity. Look deeply into its roots without dramatizing. When you truly understand suffering's causes—craving, habit, illusion—it naturally diminishes. This compassionate attention, not avoidance, is the path to transformation.
Yes. Suffering and happiness are like two sides of a sheet of paper—you cannot separate them. If you try to reject suffering while retaining only happiness, you deny reality and create more suffering. When you embrace both as part of a whole, you find a deeper peace that is not dependent on eliminating difficult emotions.
Buddhist philosophy is insight—a direct, lived understanding from practice—that has transformative power. Metaphysical speculation is intellectual theorizing about abstract questions. Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that Buddhism rejects speculation but is not anti-philosophy; Right View is a deep philosophy that emerges from mindfulness and actually heals.
When you say 'I am,' it suggests you exist as an isolated, separate being. But interbeing teaches you cannot be without the whole cosmos—parents, food, water, air, sun. A more accurate statement is 'We are there,' because you carry all beings and the Earth within you. You are a 'we,' not a 'me.'
When you sit with others in practice, you are not practicing alone. You practice with ancestors, with beings you love, with all humanity. Your presence nourishes others; their presence nourishes you. The Buddha is present in the community. This is interbeing lived—a direct experience that practice is always interconnected.

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